of manufacturing has moved from the midwest, the kind of rust belt of america to the south in part because those southern states are right-to-work. can i mention one other thing if i could, bill, about this issue that is important? bill: sure. >> there is so much misinformation what it means to be a right-to-work state. i want your viewers to know this, if you're a right-to-work state it does not ban unions, bill. simply means that workers who work for a unionized company have the right as an individual to join the union or not. it does not ban unions. bill: to be more specific, if you're not a member of a union, in michigan you're required to pay union dues. >> that is exactly right. bill: under this law you're no longer required to pay dues for something you're not gets service for anyway. >> that's right. the worker has the right to pay the union dues or not. really i think it is much a civil liberties issue. bill: in one hour we'll take it up with a democratic lawmaker in michigan that is none too happy about it. you predict within 10 years all but 15 states will have the same new law that m